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Fandom and “Bond Girl* Syndrome”

saathi1013:

So FilmCritHulk is writing a great series over at Badass Digest about the Bond franchise.

And, slight digression here: I grew up watching Bond movies.  And when I say “grew up watching,” I mean that my dad is a huge Bond fanboy; he would take over the television when there was a Bond Marathon, he owns a bunch of merch, including posters, and owns a goodly chunk of the movies and the soundtracks on various formats…   I can name a Bond movie from like 10 seconds of its theme song and I have Opinions about all the Bond movies, including the apocryphal ones (Never Say Never Again and the first Casino Royale, for those who don’t know).  My favorite Bond movie is On Her Majesty’s Secret Service and I will throw down about Lazenby, even though I don’t think it’s the best Bond movie because it’s got a lot of gross weirdness even within the sliding scale of ‘Bond movies always have some problematic baggage.’

So I know me some Bond, okay.  But really, I want to talk about Bond Girls* for a second.  

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all of this is perfection. I dread the day my book comes out and I get the first “Gail Godwin is a strong female character” review.

  #meta    #truth    #james bond    #my dad is like saathi's dad    #i know the bond films    #and I treat them affectionately    #fandom    #Natasha Romanoff    #jane foster    #thor    #steve rogers    #manic pixie dream girl takedown  

harmalade:

fandom culture is half about commitment to media and half about commitment to the community. that means, when you notice and point out toxic stuff in the media or in the community, you will be criticized and/or ostracized because

"you’re not committed enough to the media" / "you’re not committed enough to the community"

because that’s the difference between being a fan of something and being the fandom of something: commitment. and that’s why any fandom seems overly serious and cultish from the outside, and very normalized and comfortable on the inside.

"at least [my fandom] isn’t like [other fandom]" yes, it is.

so there’s a great deal of pressure to overlook problems with the media, with the community, with canon and fanon narratives for the sake of preserving the community and for the sake of preserving the media (a great deal of possessiveness within fandom) in addition to a personal desire to preserve the sense of something safe, and perfect—an escape

but those of us for whom the media, whatever it is, will always be full of troubling, problematic, oppressive jabs at our humanity run into a problem. we must reject our sense of self “they’re not really talking about me” or reject our own knowledge “that’s not really what they meant, right?”

because if you can’t achieve that sense of being so absorbed in that media and the community, then you’ll soon find yourself on the outs, “not committed enough” and you’ll drift out of the community, and maybe you’ll never enjoy that media again

my point is, the problem with fandom is not the enjoyment of media, it’s the all-or-nothing possessiveness of media. fan narratives are very strong and complex. being involved with fandom is like watching a different version of the show, where it’s just as problematic, and the main difference is the writers can hurt you personally

  #chuck    #fandom    #queued for awesome  
Stop writing/drawing the things you want to write/draw and instead write/draw the things I specifically want to read/see.
Fandom (via lemonsharks)
  #'i'm cleaning out my favorites list'    #'it's gotten too cluttered'    #fandom    #queued for awesome  
If there’s one defining characteristic of fandom, it’s that we all care deeply about the one true interpretation as meant by the author/writer/producer right up until we disagree with them and kill them immediately and write the one true true interpretation in their blood.
  #sounds legit    #fandom    #queued for awesome  
tiptop-dog:

2spookytomhiddles:

one-turn-kill:

my-flourish-and-blotts:

my-flourish-and-blotts:

sassduck:

my-flourish-and-blotts:

wholockhead-willbeanastronaut:

lumos5000:

I didn’t choose the fandom life. the fandom life came to my dorm room in the middle of the night and said, “dad’s on a hunting trip and hasn’t been home in a few weeks.” 

I didn’t choose the fandom life, the fandom life grabbed.my hand and whispered ‘run’

I didn’t choose the fandom life. the fandom life knocked down my door and said “Yer a wizard.” 

I didn’t choose the fandom life, the fandom life blackmailed me into joining the Glee club.

I didn’t choose the fandom life the fandom life sent me a text “Come at once if convenient. If inconvenient, come anyway.”

I didn’t choose the fandom life. The fandom life said “this is my design.”

I didn’t choose the fandom life. The fandom life challenged me to a duel.

I didn’t choose the fandom life. The fandom life started playing on my radio and said “Hello Night Vale.”

I didn’t choose the fandom life. The fandom life told me “I find it more comforting to believe that this isn’t simply a test.”

I didn’t choose the fandom life. I just attacked the troll with the nasty knife.

tiptop-dog:

2spookytomhiddles:

one-turn-kill:

my-flourish-and-blotts:

my-flourish-and-blotts:

sassduck:

my-flourish-and-blotts:

wholockhead-willbeanastronaut:

lumos5000:

I didn’t choose the fandom life. the fandom life came to my dorm room in the middle of the night and said, “dad’s on a hunting trip and hasn’t been home in a few weeks.” 

I didn’t choose the fandom life, the fandom life grabbed.my hand and whispered ‘run’

I didn’t choose the fandom life. the fandom life knocked down my door and said “Yer a wizard.” 

I didn’t choose the fandom life, the fandom life blackmailed me into joining the Glee club.

I didn’t choose the fandom life the fandom life sent me a text “Come at once if convenient. If inconvenient, come anyway.”

I didn’t choose the fandom life. The fandom life said “this is my design.”

I didn’t choose the fandom life. The fandom life challenged me to a duel.

I didn’t choose the fandom life. The fandom life started playing on my radio and said “Hello Night Vale.”

I didn’t choose the fandom life. The fandom life told me “I find it more comforting to believe that this isn’t simply a test.”

I didn’t choose the fandom life. I just attacked the troll with the nasty knife.

  #fandom    #chuck  

For all the women I have loved who were dragged through the mud

aiffe:

I’ve read a lot of great essays about how fandom is female-majority and creates a female gaze and a safe space for women and etc. But spend five minutes in fandom and you’ll have an unsettling question.

Why does a female-majority, feminist culture hate female characters so much?

It’s not a question of if it happens. You know it does. You can go into any fandom and see it. Some fandoms are worse than others, but it’s always there. Scroll down the Tumblr tag for any show, movie, book, comic, whatever, and you’ll see nothing but love for the men, and a lot of unjustified hate for the women, maybe with a few defenders here and there insisting on their love for the women in the face of all that hate.

To be clear, we’re not talking about female villains. Male villains get just as much hate. It’s fine if you hate Bellatrix Lestrange or Dolores Umbridge, you’re supposed to. (I personally stan for Bella, but I realize that wasn’t the authorial intent.) This is about people hating Hermione, Ginny and Luna, but loving Harry, Ron and Neville. This is about how ambiguous male antiheroes, like Snape, Zuko, or pretty much any male vampire protagonist can get away with walking that fine line between good and evil and not only remain sympathetic, but be even more beloved for how ~tortured~ he is, but when a female character is morally gray that bitch has to die.

So you can’t tell me it’s okay that you hate Sansa because you also hate Joffrey and he’s a dude. They’re not comparable. It isn’t even comparable if you pick a female antihero. Let’s do this apples to apples, here.

We all know that fandom does this. We all know that it’s fucked up and symptomatic of internalized sexism. What’s really fucking weird about it, though, is that the women doing this hating often aren’t ignorant. These are feminists. These are women who can go on meta-analyses of the writing. Some will hide behind pseudo-feminist reasons for their hate—oh, it’s the writing, we just aren’t given strong female characters! (I saw this used for the women of AtLA: Katara, Toph, Azula, et al. This was about when I just backed away slowly because I know a lost cause when I see it.) I’ve seen women who denied being sexist, but couldn’t name a single female character they liked. And it’s always that the female characters aren’t good enough, even when they obviously have a double standard, and they’re measuring women on an impossible scale full of contradictions and no-win binds, while the men are just embraced and loved pretty much for existing.

The reaction nearly every time one of these women is called out is not to say, “Huh, you may have a point, I should examine the way I judge and process women’s actions more closely,” but an insistence of their feminism, followed by a more detailed description of why that particular woman is terrible and she hates her, as if the whole point were not that fandom is already oversaturated with that kind of hate, and as if the person doing the calling out were not already 110% done with that bullshit.

Particularly telling is that male-dominated corners of fandom do not have this problem. They fetishize, they objectify, they ignore. They don’t hate like this.

We know it happens. What I want to know is WHY.

Theories follow below the cut.

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  #avengers    #fandom    #truth  

 crowsfan replied to your photosethobanwashburnes: Chuck meme → 7 fight scenes …

That is the thing that is unique about the Chuck fandom. So many people wishing entire seasons had never happened.

Oh, I pretend Gilmore Girls ended after the third season, too, and Buffy’s sixth season is only one episode, which is so weird.  I hear there’s a season of Friday Night Lights that doesn’t exist. Trust me, we’re not that special.

  #crowsfan    #fandom    #friday night lights    #chuck    #gilmore girls    #frea replies  

thirddeadlysin:

“…I don’t have to explain myself to you” is the best author’s note ever

  #writing    #fandom    #frea replies  
naomithenerdgirl:

p0sterchild:


 introducing friend to your fandom

THIS IS TOO ACCURATE OH MY GOD

The fire in the eyes is also very accurate XD

naomithenerdgirl:

p0sterchild:

 introducing friend to your fandom

THIS IS TOO ACCURATE OH MY GOD

The fire in the eyes is also very accurate XD

  #fandom    #the incredibles  

psa:

gyzym:

it’s okay to like characters

it’s okay to dislike characters

it’s okay to like flawed characters

it’s okay to dislike flawed characters 

it’s okay to like a character because of their flaws

it’s okay to dislike a character because of their flaws

it’s okay to talk about why you like a character

it’s okay to talk about why you don’t like a character

it’s okay to try to convince people to like a character with fanwork or meta 

it’s okay to try to convince people to dislike a character with fanwork or meta

it’s not okay to tell people what they are allowed to like or dislike 

this has been a post. 

  #psa    #fandom